Is the New Testament Scripture?

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  1. You say “god” wouldn’t allow a corrupted text to be in use by his people for thousands of years. Explain the absence of an inspired text from Adam up until Moses. Also explain the corrupted Talmud that has been used from the time of the Babylonian captivity by Jewish leaders.

    • You said:
      You say “god” wouldn’t allow a corrupted text to be in use by his people for thousands of years. Explain the absence of an inspired text from Adam up until Moses. Also explain the corrupted Talmud that has been used from the time of the Babylonian captivity by Jewish leaders.

      Answer:
      The Talmud is not the Word, it has nothing to do with this study. Can you prove there wasn’t an inspired text from Adam until Moses? Even if there were no text that doesn’t equate with a text that is in error. There is a big difference between something that is not said and a lie.
      Scripture says that the Word is from the beginning.
      Psa 119:52 I remembered Your judgments from of old, O YHWH, and I take comfort.
      Psa 119:52 זכרתי משׁפטיך מעולם יהוה ואתנחם׃

      Psa 119:89 LAMED: Your Word is settled in Heaven forever {לעולם }, O YHWH.

      It was given to the Ancient people
      Isa 44:7 And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient (עלם) people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them.
      Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

      Wisdom was before creation
      Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
      Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
      Pro 8:23 מעולם נסכתי מראשׁ מקדמי־ארץ׃
      Wisdom is His Word
      Jer 8:9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?
      Deu 4:5 Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
      Deu 4:6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.
      Ezr 7:14 Forasmuch as thou art sent of the king, and of his seven counsellors, to enquire concerning Judah and Jerusalem, according to the law of thy God which is in thine hand;
      Ezr 7:25 And thou, Ezra, after the wisdom of thy God, that is in thine hand, set magistrates and judges, which may judge all the people that are beyond the river, all such as know the laws of thy God; and teach ye them that know them not.

      Abraham kept the Word…Was this all dictated to him orally or was the Word already written in some form?
      Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

      The Torah existed before Mt. Sinai (Exodus 13:9; 16:4, 28-30; 18:16).
      Job, who lived before Moses, had the Torah/Word (Job 22:22; 23:11-12)
      Sin existed from the days of Adam but where there is no Torah there is no sin. Hence, the Torah/Word existed at the beginning (Romans 4:15; 5:12-14; 7:7-8).
      Those who lived near the days of Messiah believed that the Torah was written before Moses (Jubilees 39:6; Jasher 26:24), written upon ‘heavenly tablets’ (Jubilees 3:10-13, 31-32; 30:20-22). Jubilees 21:10 speaks of the Torah being handed down from Patriarch to Patriarch. Jubilees 12:27 says Hebrew was the tongue of creation that was taught to Abraham and he was given the books of the fathers in Hebrew. Jubilees 21:6-21 Abraham describes to Isaac the proper way of sacrificing and said he learned so from the books of his forefathers, and in the words of Enoch, and in the words of Noah. Jubilees 33:16 speaks of the Torah as not being revealed in its fullness to the patriarchs…Jubilees 45:16 speaks of Jacob handing down the books to Levi who preserved them until that day. Jasher 23:5 speaks of Abraham taking Isaac to Shem & Eber to study the service of Elohim and to learn the ways of the Lord. 1Adam & Eve 6:6; 22:5; 34:17 speaks of the Torah being given in the Garden of Eden.

      You said:
      “The Scripture are the truth, therefore there can be no error in them” and “The Scripture is pure, it can’t be defiled or corrupted by ‘copyist errors.’”
      Please explain these statements in relation to Yochanan’s warning in Hazon (Revelation):”For I witness to everyone hearing the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to them, Elohim shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book,”
      If Scripture cannot be corrupted why give a warning not to corrupt it?

      Answer:
      I believe I already answered your questions in this study. The word is pure and undefiled (Psalm 18:7; John 10:35; Deuteronomy 12:32; 4:2; Proverbs 30:6 etc.). Do you not believe this? The Torah gives the same warning…are you saying that scribes have corrupted this text?

      You said:
      “The TaNaKH can not be understood without the revelation of the New Testament”
      If this statement is accurate, how did the Apostles come to understand the Torah and Prophets without it? What role does the Set-apart Spirit play? How did the prophets attain understanding of the Torah without the “new testament”? Did Moshe understand the Torah? What about Yochanan the Immerser? Where did he get his revelation from? He was preaching the good news even before the Messiah!

      Answer:
      The primary role of the Holy Spirit is to lead man unto truth, the knowledge of Messiah (John 15:26; 16:13). What is the primary purpose of the TaNaKH? The same thing (John 5:46-47; Luke 24:25-27, 44-45; Psalm 40:6-8). Could Moses or John the Baptist truly see this without the coming of Messiah? Moses proclaimed there were things hidden even from him (Deuteronomy 29:29). Did John the Baptist see the image of Messiah in the TaNaKH clearly? He still had doubts because he didn’t fully understand (Matthew 11:3). The Torah is the shadow of Messiah but not the body (Hebrews 10:1). It is through the writings of the New Testament that we see the body of which the shadow is pointing.

      You said:
      The religious trap of “doubt not” has caused people to believe lies without question. To doubt causes one to ask questions and seek answers to further establish what they know to be true or cause them to discover a truth hidden away by the lie previously believed. Doubt is the fear of asking questions and discovering the truth. The truth may be what one believes is a lie. Remember ” Love cast out all fear”. If one loves truth, there is no fear in doubting; there is no fear in questioning; there is no fear in discovering what one believes is a lie and now the truth can be known; now freedom is acquired.
      “This has been satan’s plan since the beginning. ‘Hath God said?’ He wants to put doubt upon the Word of YHWH because the Messiah is the Word made flesh (John 1:1). Doubt the Word, means to doubt the Messiah.”
      Doubt isn’t the problem. The problem is how it is handled. Eve could’ve (and should’ve) asked her husband to confirm or disprove what the Enchanter (nachash: serpent) said was factual, but she didn’t. She was under his ego-enlarging spell.
      “Blessed are the humble in spirit, for theirs is the reign of heaven”. When we can humble ourselves and accept we don’t have all the answers or what answers we do have may be incorrect, then we shall find the truth.

      Answer:
      I am all for seeking truth and growing in grace and knowledge. I do not believe doubt engenders this growth however. Messiah said that doubt is not of faith (Matthew 14:31). Doubt has the meaning of one who wavers. This is not the will of the Father (Ephesians 4:14). Faith has the meaning of one who is firm and planted securely in belief. Without faith it is impossible to please the Almighty (Hebrew 11:6). His Word is His Faith (Habakkuk 2:4; Psalm 96:13; John 12:48; Revelation 19:11; Romans 1:17-18; 10:8, 17)
      A good example of this is the Bereans. They received the Word with gladness but also sought to make sure what was said was true. Scripture doesn’t say they doubted because they were of a ‘ready mind.’ There is a big difference here.
      Indeed, the Lord loves those of a humble heart. I agree totally that we must humble ourselves and accept we don’t know all the answers. At the same time I am convinced that the Lord does not want us to doubt Him or His Word. When we begin to doubt then we cannot come to a full knowledge of the Truth because every wind of doctrine will then cast us to and fro.
      You said:
      Will you also explain this text : “But you, Dani’ĕl, hide the words, and seal the book until the time of the end” in relation to your comment : “Which one should be believed? Certainly not some text that was buried or hidden for thousands of years.”

      Answer:
      Do you believe this in reference to the Bible? If so, why did Messiah say the Word was truth (John 8:31-32; 17:17)? Why did Gabriel tell Daniel the Scripture was true (Daniel 10:21) if it was ‘sealed’ until the end?

      • Answering from the bottom up.
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        The reference is to “the book”. If it refers to the modern Scriptures, I’m unsure. I’m unsure what you mean by the other two questions or what you’re getting at, could you elaborate? Also, you didn’t answer the question. If the Messenger is instructing Dani’el to “seal the book until the time of the end” shouldn’t we believe the “burried or hidden” text even if it was “hidden for thousands of years” (once verified as an original writing of an old prophet)?
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        The Berean testimony: Act 17:11 Now these were more noble than those in Thessalonike, who received the word with great eagerness, and searched the Scriptures daily, if these words were so.
        Act 17:12 Then many of them truly believed.

        First came doubt, then came belief. They were uncertain what they were being told was true. They were hesitant to believe therefore they asked the questions and sought the answers. Once they found the answers they then “truly believed”. Doubt is the road to truth to those who love it.

        You’re correct that our Father doesn’t want us to doubt his word, but we first must come to recognize his teaching as true and faithful. I was once a Christian who, by nature of the Christian teachings, doubted his teachings (Torah) and therefore didn’t follow them. Now that I asked the questions and followed through with seeking the answers I truly believe his Torah is true and valid.
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        Your statement: “The TaNaKH can not be understood without the revelation of the New Testament”

        The point I was making was before the Messianic Writings were written, the Tanakh was the only point of reference. The meanings of it’s parables were revealed by the set-apart spirit then written in the letters. Therefore how can your comment be accurate? These set-apart men understood the Tanakh before the letters were written.

        The Messianic Writings weren’t bundled together as we have them today until hundreds of years after the Apostles passed away. Therefore your statement can’t be accurate. The men of that time had the set-apart spirit and the Tanakh and understood it better than we, who have the Messianic Writings, do today.
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        “there can be no error in them [The Scriptures]” and “it can’t be defiled or corrupted by ‘copyist errors”.

        The word “can” and “can’t” in the context in which you used them completely eliminates the possibility of error, defilement or corruption by men. Men can’t make mistakes? In the wrong hands, men can’t corrupt the text? Non-Hebew Men can’t misinterpret the Hebrew when translating or copying? Your trust in men is astounding!

        As I pointed out Yochanan understood the corruption of men and warned them of the impending discipline they would encounter if the words of the book were tampered with. I’m not saying the scribes corrupted the text as that isn’t the argument. The argument is the “can” and “can’t”..the inability of corrupt men to corrupt what is set-apart (didn’t Aaron’s sons burn corrupt fire and were devoured by the flame of Eloah?)
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        You’re correct! The Talmud is not the Teachings yet were and are used by his people (according to the flesh) and that is my point. Eloah allows people to make their own decisions no matter how much it hurts us and him. If we want to use the Talmud to interpret the Torah then so be it. If we want to use Kabbalah then so be it. He’s not going to stop us from corrupting ourselves (though he will warn us and send us signs to stop and return to the way).
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        You asked me:

        “If you believe the New Testament is factual then what is your problem with the study?”

        I think I’ve made my problems with the study clear. Your arguments, as I have pointed out, are full of gaps that need to be closed to be effective. I also have a problem with the the “don’t doubt” teaching. How else would people ever “truly believe” if doubts are never addressed, questions never answered? The Christians have done a swell job at keeping people in the clutches of death by teaching them the “don’t doubt” rule. (Which is a misinterpretation of the Messiah’s statement)

        If I want to be certain the Scriptures are faithful and true I must first question and questioning is doubt (being uncertain, hesitant to believe). As I said, “Doubt is the road to truth to those who love it.” As believers we must trust Eloah will find those who are lost even if they doubt now. We should assist those who are uncertain and hesitant to believe with answering their questions that they too “truly believe”.

  2. Will you also explain this text : “But you, Dani’ĕl, hide the words, and seal the book until the time of the end” in relation to your comment : “Which one should be believed? Certainly not some text that was buried or hidden for thousands of years.”

  3. The religious trap of “doubt not” has caused people to believe lies without question. To doubt causes one to ask questions and seek answers to further establish what they know to be true or cause them to discover a truth hidden away by the lie previously believed. Doubt is the fear of asking questions and discovering the truth. The truth may be what one believes is a lie. Remember ” Love cast out all fear”. If one loves truth, there is no fear in doubting; there is no fear in questioning; there is no fear in discovering what one believes is a lie and now the truth can be known; now freedom is acquired.

    “This has been satan’s plan since the beginning. ‘Hath God said?’ He wants to put doubt upon the Word of YHWH because the Messiah is the Word made flesh (John 1:1). Doubt the Word, means to doubt the Messiah.”

    Doubt isn’t the problem. The problem is how it is handled. Eve could’ve (and should’ve) asked her husband to confirm or disprove what the Enchanter (nachash: serpent) said was factual, but she didn’t. She was under his ego-enlarging spell.

    “Blessed are the humble in spirit, for theirs is the reign of heaven”. When we can humble ourselves and accept we don’t have all the answers or what answers we do have may be incorrect, then we shall find the truth.

  4. “The TaNaKH can not be understood without the revelation of the New Testament”

    If this statement is accurate, how did the Apostles come to understand the Torah and Prophets without it? What role does the Set-apart Spirit play? How did the prophets attain understanding of the Torah without the “new testament”? Did Moshe understand the Torah? What about Yochanan the Immerser? Where did he get his revelation from? He was preaching the good news even before the Messiah!

  5. “The Scripture are the truth, therefore there can be no error in them” and “The Scripture is pure, it can’t be defiled or corrupted by ‘copyist errors.’”

    Please explain these statements in relation to Yochanan’s warning in Hazon (Revelation):”For I witness to everyone hearing the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to them, Elohim shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book,”

    If Scripture cannot be corrupted why give a warning not to corrupt it?

  6. Hallelujah!! littleguyintheeye,
    Lately I have been doing much reading. I begun to loose heart as different ones began telling me Pauline epistles are part of end time deception, or just not to be believed as scripture. I just tabled it all as I had no defense. I didnt quite believe it, yet I did not flat out reject the rejection of Pauline scripture. To see this laid out so plainly is, for me, answered prayer. Thank you for your time and effort in your writing and your public sharing of your muse. I am again blessed.

    • I am glad the studies are a blessing. I am in total disagreement with those who say Paul’s writings are not Scripture. Usually this is said by people who misunderstand his writings and think he is contradicting other parts of Scripture. Here is an excerpt from the same study that I based this study off of. I think next week I will try to post this with more detail, Yah willing.

      ….
      the proponents of the Holy Blood Holy Grail theory attack Paul as an heretic and deceiver. By casting doubt upon Paul, consequently Paul’s epistles then can be attacked.

      The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception pg 181-182

      “In all the vicissitudes that follow, it must be emphasised that Paul is, in effect the first ‘Christian’ heretic, and that his teachings – which become the foundation of later Christianity – are a flagrant deviation from the ‘original’ or ‘pure’ form extolled by the leadership…Paul, in effect, shunts God aside and established, for the first time, worship of Jesus – Jesus as a kind of equivalent of Adonis, of Tammuz, of Attis, or of any one of the other dying and reviving gods who populated the Middle East at the time. In order to compete with these divine rivals, Jesus had to match them point for point, miracle for miracle. It is at this stage that many of the miraculous elements become associated with Jesus’ biography, including, in all probability, his supposed birth of a virgin and his resurrection from the dead. They are essentially Pauline inventions…”

      Messianic Legacy pg 79
      “One can trace numerous specific elements in the Gospels to their origin not in history, but in the traditions surrounding Tammuz, Osiris, Attis, Adonis, Dionysos and Zoroaster. Many of them, for example, were supposed to have been born to a god and a virgin. Mithraism exerted a particularly powerful influence on the coalescence of Christian tradition. It postulated an apocalypse, a day of judgment, a resurrection of the flesh and a second coming of Mithras himself, who would finally defeat the principle of evil. Mithras was said to have been born in a cave or a grotto, where shepherds attended him and regaled him with gifts. Baptism played a prominent role in Mithraic rites. So, too, did the communal meal. There is a passage in the Mithraic communion which is particularly interesting. ‘He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved.”

      Messianic Legacy pg 79
      “Even with the comparatively slight knowledge we have of Mithraism and its liturgy, it is clear that many of Paul’s phrases [in his letters] savour much more of the terminology of the Persian cult than that of the Gospels.”

      Messianic Legacy pg 106
      “According to Irenaeus, the Ebionites insist that Jesus was man, not God, and was not born of a virgin…They reject the Pauline letters, and ‘they reject the apostle Paul, calling him an apostate from the Law’…The Church historian Eusebius was attacking the Nazareans for being heretical. They held that ‘…the epistles of the Apostle [Paul] ought to be rejected altogether, calling him a renegade from the Law; and using only the ‘Gospel of the Hebrews’, they treated the rest with scant respect.’…Epiphanius condemns the Ebionites or Nazareans for denying the Virgin Birth, teaching that Jesus was a man born of men, declaring that Jesus became Messiah only on his baptism and using alternative versions of the Acts of the Apostles. They are ‘not ashamed’, Epiphanius writes indignantly, to denounce Paul, believing him to be pseudapostolorum – a ‘false apostle.’…In one Nazarean text, Paul is called ‘the enemy.’ The text maintains insistently that Jesus’ rightful heir was his brother James, and takes great pains to argue that Simon Peter is quoted as issuing a warning against any authority other than the Nazarean hierarchy: ‘Wherefore observe the greatest caution, that you believe no teacher, unless he brings from Jerusalem the testimonial of James the Lord’s brother…’”

      Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln claim that Schlomo Pines found a collection of 10th century Arabic manuscripts entitled ‘al-nasara’ the Nazareans.
      Messianic Legacy pg 107
      “It appears to reflect a tradition dating, without a break, back to the original Nazarean hierarchy which fled Jerusalem immediately prior to the revolt of A.D. 66. Again, Jesus is stated to be a man, not a god, and any suggestion of his divinity is rejected. The importance of Judaic law is again stressed. Paul is castigated and his followers are said to ‘have abandoned the religion of Christ and turned towards the religious doctrines of the Romans’. The Gospels are dismissed as unreliable, second-hand accounts which contain only ‘something- but little- of the sayings, the precepts of Christ and information concerning him’…The tenth-century Arab document goes on to assert that the sect from whom the Nazarean text issued is still in existence, and is regarded as an elite amongst Christians.

      What says the Scriptures about Paul?

      There were rumors about Paul that match much of what the above authors claim. The Scriptures state that these rumors were false.

      Act 18:12 But Gallio being proconsul of Achaia, the Jews rushed against Paul with one passion and led him to the tribunal,
      Act 18:13 saying, This one persuades men to worship God contrary to the Law.
      Act 21:28 crying out, Men, Israelites, help! This is the man who teaches all everywhere against the people and the Law and this place. And even more, he also brought Greeks into the temple and has defiled this holy place.
      Act 21:29 For they had before seen Trophimus the Ephesian in the city with him, whom they supposed that Paul brought into the temple.
      Act 25:8 Defending himself, Paul said, Neither against the Law of the Jews, nor against the temple, nor against Caesar have I sinned in anything.

      Paul did not corrupt the Word of Elohim, which by definition of that time was the TaNaKH
      2Co 4:2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness, nor corrupting the Word of God, but by the revelation of the truth commending ourselves to every conscience of men before God.

      Shaul’s letters are weighty and strong
      2Co 10:10 Because, they say, the letters are weighty and strong, but the bodily presence is weak, and his speech being despised.

      Peter says that Paul’s letters are sometimes hard to be understood because of his wisdom. Even during the times of the Apostles, false rumors were being spread about Paul because men who were unlearned and had not the Spirit were accusing Paul of things of which he did not teach.
      2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
      2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
      2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked(LAWLESS) , fall from your own stedfastness.

      It was the lawless that were corrupting Paul’s words. Paul did not teach against the Torah. He taught the Torah as good (1 Timothy 1:8), he taught the TaNaKH was wisdom (2 Timothy 3:15-17), he believed all things in the TaNaKH (Acts 24:14). He obeyed the Torah (Acts 25:8), and he taught the Torah (Romans 10:8; Deuteronomy 30:12-14).

      Paul taught obedience to the Torah

      Rom 15:18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,
      Rom 16:26 but now has been made plain, and by prophetic Scriptures, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known for obedience of faith to all the nations;
      Eph 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for through these things the wrath of God comes on the sons of disobedience.
      Eph 5:7 Then do not become partakers with them;
      Eph 5:8 for you then were darkness, but are now light in the Lord; walk as children of light.

      2Co 2:9 For to this end I also wrote, that I might know the proof of you, if you are obedient in all things.

      2Co 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership does righteousness have with lawlessness? And what fellowship does light have with darkness?
      2Co 6:15 And what agreement does Christ have with Belial? Or what part does a believer have with an unbeliever?

      1Ti 6:14 that you keep the commandment spotless, blameless, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,
      Act 21:20 And hearing, they glorified the Lord, and said to him, You see, brother, how many myriads there are of Jews that have believed, and all are zealous ones of the Law.
      Act 21:21 And they were informed about you, that you teach falling away from Moses, telling all the Jews throughout the nations not to circumcise their children, nor to walk in the customs.
      Act 21:22 What then is it? At all events, a multitude must come together, for they will hear that you have come.
      Act 21:23 Then do this, what we say to you: There are four men who have a vow on themselves;
      Act 21:24 taking these, be purified with them, and be at expense on them, that they may shave the head. And all shall know that all what they have been told about you is nothing, but you yourself walk orderly, keeping the Law.

      In his letters which were misunderstood, Paul was trying to teach the proper role of the Torah, not abrogate it.

      Rom 3:31 Then is the Law annulled through faith? Let it not be! But we establish Law.
      Rom 7:12 So indeed the Law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
      Rom 7:13 Then that which is good, has it become death to me? Let it not be! But sin, that it might appear to be sin, having worked out death to me through the good, in order that sin might become excessively sinful through the commandment.
      Rom 7:14 For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am fleshly, having been sold under sin.
      Rom 7:22 For I delight in the Law of God according to the inward man;
      Rom 7:23 but I see another law in my members having warred against the law of my mind, and taking me captive by the law of sin being in my members.
      Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
      Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then I myself with the mind truly serve the Law of God, and with the flesh the law of sin.

      Paul did not start a new religion or attempt to change the faith once delivered to the saints.

      2Co 1:13 For we do not write other things to you than what you read or even recognize; and I hope that you will recognize even to the end,

      He taught from the TaNaKH even until the end of his life.

      Act 28:22 But we think it fit to hear from you as to what you think, for truly as concerning this sect, it is known to us that it is spoken against everywhere.
      Act 28:23 And having appointed him a day, more came to him in the lodging, to whom he expounded, earnestly testifying the kingdom of God and persuading them the things concerning Jesus, both from the Law of Moses and the Prophets, from morning until evening.

      Paul said to avoid contradicting the Messiah’s Words (1 Timothy 6:3) and warned of false shepherds who would come after him.

      Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
      Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
      Act 20:31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

      It was not Paul who corrupted the true faith revealed in the New Testament. This was done progressively, starting with Ignatius who was among the next generation after the original disciples passed away.

      Paul had no misconceptions that he was able to start any new faith or religion.

      Paul taught that he had no power against the truth
      2Co 13:8 For we cannot have any power against the truth, but on behalf of the truth.
      What is truth?
      TORAH/WORD
      Psa 119:160 The sum of Your Word is true; every one of Your righteous judgments endures forever.

      Psa 119:43 And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth; for I have hoped in thy judgments.
      Psa 119:44 So shall I keep thy law continually for ever and ever.
      Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
      Psa 119:151 Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth.
      Psa 119:160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.
      Mal 2:6 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity.
      Neh 9:13 Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments:
      Dan 9:13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.
      Dan 10:21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.
      Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

      2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

      Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
      Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

      Paul taught that only the Testator (Yahshua) could change the Word.

      Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
      Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
      Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
      Gal 3:15 Brothers, I speak according to man, a covenant having been ratified, even among mankind, no one sets aside or adds to it.

      The Scriptures are clear that Messiah did not change the Word.

      Mat 5:17 Do not think that I came to annul the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to annul, but to fulfill.
      Mat 5:18 Truly I say to you, Until the heaven and the earth pass away, in no way shall one iota or one point pass away from the Law until all comes to pass.
      Mat 5:19 Therefore, whoever relaxes one of these commandments, the least, and shall teach men so, he shall be called least in the kingdom of Heaven. But whoever does and teaches them, this one shall be called great in the kingdom of Heaven.

      Paul did not believe that Yahshua changed the Word.

      Heb 13:7 Remember your leaders who spoke the Word of God to you, considering the issue of their conduct, imitate their faith:
      Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ, the same yesterday and today and forever.

      This verse corresponds to Malachi in reference to YHWH.

      Mal 3:6 For I, YHWH, change not. Because of this, you sons of Jacob are not destroyed.

      Paul warned of those who teach another gospel.

      Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
      Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
      Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
      Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

      • Thanks for your expert input Levi. I’ve noted the above Scriptures for future use. Many have argued the validity of Scripture or its translations etc – but as you say in your 2nd paragraph, ultimately, nobody can come to believe the words of Scripture without being shown from above “. The Spirit is spiritually discerned as the Scripture says and is as “foolishness to those who are perishing”. Thank you as always for sharing and God’s richest blessings!

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